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    Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:37 am

    This the 3rd and the last semifinal !
    After that we'll move on to the ultra semi-final !


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by The ??? on Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:39 am

    I think salamance will win this match..


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:40 am

    No shooting in the air plz ! Give a valid reason !! Very Happy


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by The ??? on Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:28 pm

    Salamance is more speedy and is a primary dragon with high attack, it can kill hydreigon in a shot.. you give reason?


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:23 pm

    Salamance has higher sturdiness and speed but even then the battle is pretty much equal, so I randomly voted for Hydriegon !


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Shivam on Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:10 pm

    Salamance.

    It's faster, it evolves faster, it looks cooler and it have only one head.


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:16 pm

    Salamence will be the winner, it has high speed and primary type is Dragon.


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:15 pm

    The ??? wrote:Salamance is more speedy and is a primary dragon with high attack, it can kill hydreigon in a shot.. you give reason?
    T.O.R.N.A.D.O wrote:Salamence will be the winner, it has high speed and primary type is Dragon.

    Dragon being secondary type doesn't make Hydreigon a weaker dragon !

    Primary type just refers to what a pokemon more resembles and looks like..

    Hydreigon has a shady character ,so it's primary type is dark
    but it has all the abilities of a dragon because it is one of its types...
    Both primary and secondary types EQUALLY affect a pokemon !

    Plz correct your notions !!




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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:31 pm

    You mad? Primary type is the main type.. It is not because it resembles it.. For ex- Take Pidgeot, Braviary or any Normal/Flying type bird. Does they resemble Normal first? Or Flying?


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:01 pm

    BULBAPEDIA PROOF :

    "The Flying type has been paired with every other type, except the Fighting type. This ties it with the Water type for the most types it is paired with.


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:05 pm

    The reason is why?


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:28 pm

    Its simple, the makers of pokemon wanted that to happen !


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by The ??? on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:30 pm

    Primary type = The type which belongs to pokemon more than the other type.. it is not based on appearance


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:42 pm

    This interpretation is not correct ...

    Both primary and secondary types of a pokemon have equal effects on its strengths and weaknesses!

    Eg
    Both Psychic/Fire and Fire/Steel pokemon will get STAB by their FIRE moves !


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:46 pm

    Exactly as ??? said. Okay let's say Maxlance is correct. Then why Flying is never a Primary type? Has Flying done something wrong so its not allowed as Primary?

    They both have STAB moves because its partially that type. If Smeagle uses Flamethrower and Charizard uses the same. Which/is more powerful?


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:51 pm

    Flying is not something as attacking etc. Its a part of pokemons structure..Basically there are two types: those who fly and those who can't!

    To give an extra ability or speciality to a flying pokemon it has been paired with other types.(till gen 4)

    This notion has began to change from gen 4 and we'll get to say more pure flying type pokemon....






    Hydreigon's dragon type moves are equally powerful as salamance(STAB)..Do you agree or not?


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:58 pm

    It is powerful but not equal. Salamence will have greater power of the STAB move due to its primary type whereas Hydreigon will have powerful Dark type STAB move...


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:03 pm

    Oh no...Both STABs are equal..
    Plz state where you have read this !



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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:06 pm

    Please tell me where you have read both are equal.. I am talking logical.


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Shivam on Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:48 pm

    ^everywhere.

    Google it and you'll find your answer.



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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:37 pm

    *Googled it.

    Didn't find any answer.


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:06 pm

    If I ask you whose STAB is stronger,Machamp or Heracross,what would you say?


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:10 pm

    Machamp. obviously.


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:17 pm

    I knew you would say that..See the following statement from this site and find out where you are wrong !

    "Heracross does it better thanks to its higher damage output, greater Speed, and awesome secondary STAB"

    http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/machamp


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:23 pm

    Can you make me understand this statement?

    "Because of Machamp's wide offensive movepool, many potential sets come to mind. However, most of these tend to be outclassed by other Pokemon. For example, a Choice Band set employing DynamicPunch, Stone Edge, ThunderPunch, and Ice Punch is feasible, but Heracross does it better thanks to its higher damage output, greater Speed, and awesome secondary STAB."


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:27 pm

    Ok now answer me : Which STAB is stronger : primary or secondary?


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:33 pm

    Most probably Primary.


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:38 pm

    Exactly as expected !


    See this site and you'll know that you are wrong !




    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/995081-/59748211

    "ok so I know STAB means that ifI use a move that the pokemon's type matches (e.g. blastoise, surf) then it increases it by x1.5 however if I use it with a dual-type like Archeops does it still work like fly with Archeops since it is part flying or does the rock part cancel it out?


    Archeops will get the STAB bonus damage for any Flying or Rock moves it uses. Doesn't matter if it is the primary or secondary type for the pokemon, they both are equal for damage calculations."


    Will you agree now or keep on arguing unreasonably???


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Shivam on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:45 pm

    @onii-chan:

    http://pokemondb.net/pokebase/98602/what-the-difference-between-primary-type-and-secondary-type

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070920005417AAEcaqL

    http://www.gamespot.com/pokemon-heartgold-version/forum/secondary-types-54175835/

    Is this enough or you want more?


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    Re: Salamance vs Hydreigon

    Post by Maxlance on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:51 pm

    Thanks Shivam,but I think 95 more proofs are required ! Razz

    The first site given by you clearly tells that
    "Primary type is the main type meaning that is the type the pokémon looks like"


    The??? and TORNADO , BOTH DIDN'T AGREE to that !


    The ??? wrote:Primary type = The type which belongs to pokemon more than the other type.. it is not based on appearance





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