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    Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Kiyon on Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:18 pm

    Wanted to do One.

    Mew Two was formally known as the strongest Pokemon but then Arceus arrived, so who is it?

    *Note Base damage doesn't mean everything. Darkrai vs Diagla & Pakia for example. Darkrai has 600 base damage while Diagla and Pakia have 680 yet he managed to hold them off. And just look at Pikachu.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by The ??? on Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:41 pm

    hmm, it can depend on circumstances , in game it depends on arceus nature and the plate he's holding. its a 65% win chance of arceus imo.
    but outside game, arceus is unbeatable, with all plates in him and 'judgement' move, he can beat about 5 Mewtwos Razz

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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Kiyon on Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:49 pm

    A lot of people actually ask this question, there are heaps fan made versions of these on youtube.

    Here's the stats:
    Arceus:
    HP - 120
    Att - 120
    Def - 120
    S.Att - 120
    S.Def - 120
    Speed - 120

    MewTwo:
    Hp - 106
    Att - 110
    Def - 90
    S.Att - 154
    S.Def - 90
    Speed - 130

    I wouldn't be surprised if they make a movie out of these two facing off in the future.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:04 pm

    Even without Base stats, Arceus can have every type. So it can defeat Mewtwo.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by The ??? on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:31 pm

    But mewtwo do have a chance, you know, more sp.attack and speed


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Shivam on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:41 pm

    But Arceus have great defances.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:50 pm

    Actually in Anime point of view, both have equal chances of winning.

    In game point of view, Arceus has 80% chances of winning.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Kiyon on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:52 pm

    I did some research since I was curious, a lot of people actually say that Mew Two can easily beat Arceus with no challenge at all. I laughed though since one guy said he would just jump on him up and down while hammering Arceus to the floor.

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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:55 pm

    I love you Mewtwo! Serious


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by The ??? on Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:46 pm

    Anime point of view, Arceus is a god with all powers, he can't be defeated!


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Kiyon on Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:59 pm

    You're underestimating MewTwo.

    Guy called Gingy wrote:Mewtwo knows Aura Sphere to defeat Dark Arceus, Flamethrower to counter Bug Arceus and Shadow Ball to counter Ghost Arceus.
    A good Pokemon trainer would make sure Mewtwo can counter its weaknesses, like I do by teaching my Gyarados Earthquake to counter its double weakness to Electric.
    Mewtwo always strikes first so Arceus would have to one hit/ KO Mewtwo, assuming Arceus survives the first attack.
    A Mewtwo with the right stats and attacks wouldnt lose to any Arceus.

    Ytreamz wrote:Erm What's to stop mewtwo just mind controlling Arceus? There's no way arceus can win


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:03 pm

    Well Mewtwo is still stronger. (Not more than Arceus imo. )


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by The ??? on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:07 pm

    You're underestimating MewTwo.

    Well No, im not.. I know it is pretty tough but lets just see the base sp. defence of Arceus.. 120 , a big no., again HP.. 120, big number again.. and sp. attack 120 - not as much as mewtwo but still quite a lot.
    So its pretty obvious that if mewtwo and Arceus are same level, Arceus can't be defeated by 1 hit, Arceus can always attack back with any of his Dark, Ghost or Bug form to kill mewtwo (sp. defence - 90 only)

    Also Mewtwo don't really learn Flamethrower/Shadow Ball on his own, but Judgement is a move which is of all types (changes with Plate)


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Zenesis on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:31 pm

    i vote for Mewtwo,

    Who would win mewtwo or arceus?
    Answer:
    Answer: Arceus

    Arceus is the 'Original One' who created all of the Pokemon. Lots of people call Arceus the god Pokemon since it created the Pokemon universe. Although Nintendo says Mewtwo is strongest, they don't want to reveal Arceus' true power. Plus, Arceus can switch types.
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    ARCEUS because it is so stong at LV100, it can faint the Pokemon in one hit. Plus it can be a dark type by the plate that will beat mewtwo.
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    Arceus. Perish song kills you in 3 turns then keep using recover.
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    Arceus.He can use all the plates, and have its ability.If you battled on Pearl,Diamond,Heartgold, or Soulsilver,Arceus will still win because,Mewtwo is psychic, and fighting, and if you use a plate that's for ghost type, and give Arceus ghost type moves.

    Answer: Mewtwo

    If Mew created all Pokemon (except Dialga,Palkia,Arceus,Azelf, Uxie, Mesprit and Mewtwo) Arceus didn'NT create mewtwo. Mewtwo was created from science. The battle will be Science vs. Nature. In the game, when arceus and mewtwo fight, Mewtwo wins.
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    Arceus cant learn every move,so he can't copy mewtwo, and mewtwo was proven the most powerful Pokemon.
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    Mewtwo is much stronger and Arceus is extremely overrated.
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    Mewtwo would definitely win. Mewtwo can erase and control the minds of humans and Pokemon. Arceus 17 plates would be useless against him because Arceus's multitype is a SPECIAL ABITITY - Mewtwo can block the special abilities of other Pokemon.

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    NOTE (battles created by players notwithstanding)

    If look at this based on the films and the surrounding legends then Arceus would easilly defeat Mewtwo. Arceus is God : according to legend, it created the entire Pokemon world - including the likes of Mew.

    Mewtwo is an enhanced clone of Mew and in the films seen to struggle to defeat Mew. Based on this even the great Mewtwo is no match for Arceus. It's like comparing the number 1 boxing champion to God.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by The ??? on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:42 pm

    All this is just debate for fans, be realistic, saying "Clones and Gods stuff" doesn't prove the power, power and proof are given in stats.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:45 pm

    Hmmm. But the point is who will win? I like Mewtwo but I don't think that ANY Pokémon can defeat Arceus.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Zenesis on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:48 pm

    in game i choose mewtwo
    in anime i choose arceus (g*d i don't give a dump)


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by The ??? on Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:55 pm

    I like them both equally, and mewtwo has 40% chance to win. so being practical, I chose Arcues


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Ndk_07 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:57 pm

    no vote....for dis battle


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Maxlance on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:28 pm

    I chose arceus as it can turn into a dark pokemon and defeat mewtwo....
    Mewtwo is not so legendary ,there are many pokemon which can easily defeat it....


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by [V]ergil on Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:25 am

    Mewtwo knows Aura Sphere to defeat Dark Arceus, Flamethrower to counter Bug Arceus and Shadow Ball to counter Ghost Arceus.
    A good Pokemon trainer would make sure Mewtwo can counter its weaknesses, like I do by teaching my Gyarados Earthquake to counter its double weakness to Electric.
    Mewtwo always strikes first so Arceus would have to one hit/ KO Mewtwo, assuming Arceus survives the first attack.
    A Mewtwo with the right stats and attacks wouldnt lose to any Arceus.

    Well as mentioned here.^
    Plus Science > God.Razz


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Maxlance on Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:32 am

    Who says you're an average pokemon fan?
    You seem to know so much about pokemon!!


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by [V]ergil on Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:10 pm

    Well I think I am a bigger Digimon fan that shadows my pokemon loving side.


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:45 pm

    I didn't watch Digimon that much but since I played all Pokemon games, I know more about it...


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Maxlance on Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:15 pm

    [V]ergil wrote:Well I think I am a bigger Digimon fan that shadows my pokemon loving side.

    Offtopic : Well,that goes for me too..
    I love digimon more than Pokemon...


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by den98 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:59 pm

    Digimon is more better than pokemon...but pokemon is not bad...
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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by The ??? on Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:14 am

    Dont go offtopic!! ~Surprised

    (I also liked 1st, 2nd and 3rd seasons of digimon, but later on it became crapsome..)


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Shivam on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:00 am

    Mewtwo can never defete Arceus. Not in a million years. But I voted Mewtwo because he have 2 necks Smile


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Maxlance on Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:08 am

    two necks ??


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    Re: Arceus vs MewTwo

    Post by Shivam on Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:01 am

    You know, that weird tubey thing behind his neck.


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