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    Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:42 am

    Choose your winner by giving any reason other than stats.

    Total Stats :

    Hydreigon : 600
    Froslass : 480

    It's obvious as Hydreigon is pseudo-legendary.
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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by The ??? on Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:12 am

    Hydriegon, reason is that it is speedy, and Dark type, froslass is Ghost.. So it will win.


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:02 pm

    Hydreigon. Both has type advantage over one another but Hydreigon is stronger


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Shivam on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:37 pm

    Hydreigon.
    It's just so obvious.


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

    Froslass can win due to its type advantage..(ice)
    Hydreigon is not unbeatable.


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by The ??? on Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:49 pm

    Yeah, no one said hes unbeatable, out of the 2, Hydriegon has more speed and attack, hence it'll attack first and faint froslass in 1 move.. Thats the truth


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:37 pm

    The '???' wrote:Hydriegon, reason is that it is speedy,

    The '???' wrote: out of the 2, Hydriegon has more speed and attack, hence it'll attack first and faint froslass in 1 move.. Thats the truth



    No, Hydreigon's speed is lesser than froslass ...
    Check the stats.

    Froslass won't faint in 1 move.
    It can use protect and then blizzard, which is bound to knock down hydreigon..

    Note :

    There's no 100% truth in pokebattles.
    Out of two pokemon (with comparable stats) anyone can win..
    There can be more chance of one being the winner , but not complete sureity..

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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:08 pm

    =.=" Hydreigon is Dark/Dragon. Dark is super-effective on Ghost. =.="


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:10 pm

    I completely agree.
    The same goes for Ice.
    Ice is super-effective on Dragon..


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:27 pm

    Ice is super-effective on Dragon but Hydreigon has great sp. def. It can endure one attack.. Then .........


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:39 pm

    Yes, hydreigon has higher winning chance but it can't endure continuous attack like hailstorm...


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by The ??? on Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:52 pm

    do you really think froslass can endure ANY attack of hyriegon?


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:08 pm

    It is at this stage that PROTECT comes into play...
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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by The ??? on Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:32 pm

    If it keeps protecting, how wi it attack? And protect FAILS after 2 times in a row


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:39 pm

    It just needs to do protect and then blizzard , or even better - hailstorm !


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by The ??? on Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:00 am

    you dont seem to understand the concept of how battles takes place,
    move 1:
    Froslass used protect
    Hydreigon used crunch
    Froslass protected itself
    move 2:
    If Froslass uses protect again ^ that will happen
    else
    Froslass used Ice Beam
    it super effective !
    (only half hp will be reduced)
    hydriegon used Dark pulse
    its super effective
    Froslass fainted.

    ^ this is what will happen


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:01 am

    Is that so? Then take a look at this:

    1)If hydreigon strikes first

    Hydreigon used crunch
    Attack misses(Froslass has brightpowder to increase evasion)

    Froslass used frost breath/sheer cold(best option)/ice beam
    Super effective!!
    Hydreigon faints..

    2)If froslass strikes first

    Froslass used frost breath/ sheer cold(best option)/ice beam
    Super effective
    Hydreigon faints...

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    1) Sheer cold is one hit KO
    2)Frost breath has 100% probability of striking ,
    ice beam has 100% accuracy..
    3)No dark type move has probability of more than 40 % striking except snarl which is not a HP lowering move
    4)Froslass and hydreigon have comparable HP(difference of only 20)
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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Shivam on Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:16 am

    Sheer Cold have 30% chance to hit.
    Ice beam and Frost Breath can hardly take out half of it's HP.
    I don't mean any offence, but try to think for a change. It's Hydreigon, not Flygon.


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:26 am

    I know very well that hydreigon has higher chances of winning.
    But I wish to stress on the fact that Froslass can beat it.

    1) Sheer cold has 30 % chance,very true , but IF IT HITS hydreigon is gone for sure..
    2)" Never meltIce" can be used to highly boost the power of Ice beam and Frost breath..

    My point is -

    With Flygon , Froslass has 90% winning chance
    With Hydreigon,Froslass has 40% winning chance(not 0%)


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Shivam on Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:12 am

    No one said Froslass have 0% chance of winning. We know it can also win.


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:27 am

    That's exactly the point I wanted to stress upon.


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by The ??? on Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:07 pm

    Well yeah, no one said Froslass has 0% chance, but hydreigon has more chance and voting shall be done for the one who has more chance!


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:16 pm

    If chance is very less (less than 20% )the other one should be definitely voted for.
    But in the case of more than 30% votings will vary automatically !!
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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Shivam on Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:51 pm

    Now look who's winnin'.


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by The ??? on Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:20 pm

    lol, i actually disagree that Froslass has higher winning chance


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Maxlance on Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:34 pm

    Everybody knows very well that froslass has lesser winning chance,
    but the fact that it's such an awesome pokemon to hold its own against a pseudo- legendary like hydreigon , makes it the winner !!


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:56 pm

    These polls are for the battles that obey these points:

    1. No hold item.
    2. No one-hit Ko moves.
    3. No item to be used in battle.
    4. No switching.
    5. Both Pokemon are at same level.

    These polls are based on Pure fighting strength of Pokemon. So don't include any of the above points.


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Zenesis on Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:49 pm

    Voting result : Froslass win (don't deny it =_=)


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by T.O.R.N.A.D.O on Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:06 pm

    Who told?


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    Re: Hydreigon vs Froslass

    Post by Zenesis on Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:11 pm

    voting result told it (read with eye)


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